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Big Books & Bold Ideas with Kerri Miller
Kerri Miller and Ariana Rosas

Debunking the ‘big lie’ about the 2020 presidential election

Trump supporters gather outside the U.S. Capitol building.
Pro-Trump mob gathers outside the U.S. Capitol building following a "Stop the Steal" rally on Jan. 6 in Washington, D.C.
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A surge of false theories about mass voter fraud in the 2020 general election left many with lingering doubts about former President Donald Trump’s defeat. The “big lie,” which led to more than 60 lawsuits seeking to overturn the election results, has been rejected or discredited in multiple courts across the country. 

This week, one of the “Stop the Steal” movement’s leading champions walked back some of her claims. Lawyer Sidney Powell, who faces billion-dollar lawsuits for claiming, without evidence, that President Joe Biden’s win was the result of mass voter fraud, is now saying "no reasonable person” would conclude those "were truly statements of fact."

Thursday, MPR News host Kerri Miller spoke with Minnesota’s top election official and an election law expert about election infrastructure and what we know about voter fraud and election integrity.

Guests:

  • Steve Simon, Minnesota Secretary of State

  • Ciara Torres-Spelliscy, a professor at Stetson University’s College of Law and a fellow at the Brennan Center for Justice. 

To listen to the full conversation you can use the audio player above.

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